Philosophy Hour · Episode 79
Love Vs Like
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Tommy the Hamburger is in Philosophy Hour. This is where I take the fucking big questions that usually get dressed up in polite little college words, drag them into real life, and see what survives. No fake wisdom, no clean answers, just the hard shit that keeps crawling around in your head after midnight.
You can love somebody and still dread hearing their footsteps.
There. That is the sentence.
Not elegant.
Not pretty.
But true enough to make a whole room uncomfortable.
Can you love someone you do not like?
Of course people ask this because they want either permission or absolution.
Permission to stop pretending warmth they do not feel.
Or absolution for relationships that have turned into duty with a pulse.
And the trouble is, both needs are real.
I knew a guy who called his father every Sunday and hated almost every minute of it.
Not because his father was some obvious monster. If he had been, the whole question would get simpler, at least on paper.
No, the father was one of those men who could be generous, competent, funny, and impossible in the same hour. The kind who loved through provision and criticism in one tangled rope. Paid bills. Showed up with tools. Never forgot a birthday. Also managed to make every conversation feel like a performance review from a disappointed foreman.
The son, now in his forties, would call him like it was a chore assigned by a court. He would pace during the call. Roll his eyes. Mute the phone and mouth "Jesus Christ" at the ceiling. Then unmute and say, "No, yeah, work's good," in the careful voice people use when they are trying not to trigger another lecture disguised as concern.
After one of those calls he said to me, "If that man needed a kidney, I'd be in the hospital tomorrow. If he asked me to spend a weekend at the lake house, I'd fake my death."
Fuck me sideways, that is the whole category right there.
He was not lying about either part.
He loved his father.
He also did not like being around him.
So what does that mean?
Is that still love?
Or is it obligation, loyalty, guilt, habit, old wiring, family mythology, all wearing love's nametag because nobody wants to say the uglier thing out loud?
A lot of people try to solve this by pretending love and liking are basically the same. If you love somebody, you should enjoy them. If you dread their company, maybe the love is fake. That is a nice thought for greeting cards and absolute garbage for actual families.
Liking usually means something simpler and more immediate.
I like being with you.
I like your texture.
I like how the room feels when you are in it.
I like your jokes, your timing, your habits, your smell, your voice, your pace.
Liking lives close to pleasure.
Not shallow pleasure necessarily, but experiential pleasure.
Love is messier.
Love can include pleasure, yes.
It should, if the gods are being kind.
But love can also survive long after pleasure has been kneecapped by history, resentment, illness, disappointment, mismatch, duty, or plain old incompatible temperaments.
That does not automatically make it noble. It just makes it more complicated than "I enjoy your company."
The father son problem is common because family gives you bonds without asking whether the personalities involved were actually built to coexist peacefully. Some people would never choose each other in the wild. If they met at thirty five instead of birth, they would exchange three stiff conversations and never voluntarily share a meal again. But blood, history, and mutual imprint mean they cannot cleanly become strangers either.
So you get this brutal split.
The person matters immensely.
The person is also, in practice, exhausting as hell.
And if you are honest about that, people get nervous. They think saying "I do not like my mother" or "I love my brother but I can only handle him in six hour doses" is some kind of moral failure.
Maybe sometimes it is.
Maybe sometimes you are just impatient, avoidant, emotionally stingy, whatever.
But not always.
Sometimes disliking someone is accurate perception.
They interrupt.
They moralize.
They make every room tighter.
They convert vulnerability into advice.
They cannot let a conversation end without inserting hierarchy into it.
You are not required to call those qualities charming just because the person once packed your school lunches.
This is where I think people mix up two different questions.
Do I feel warmth toward them?
And: am I bound up with their existence in a way that seriously affects what I am willing to do, risk, endure, or grieve?
Those are not the same.
The first question is closer to liking.
The second is closer to love.
Harry Frankfurt, in his high end philosopher way, talks about love as a kind of necessity in the will. The loved person becomes part of what organizes your cares. Their wellbeing is not neutral to you anymore. It bears on your own orientation toward life. That does not mean you enjoy brunch with them. It means their reality has gotten lodged in your value structure.
The son with the Sunday phone calls had that, clearly.
His father's pain would become his pain.
His father's danger would summon him.
His father's death, he knew, would alter the architecture of his world even though the weekly calls felt like chewing drywall.
That is not nothing.
That is not fake.
But it still leaves the hard part.
If love can survive without liking, what kind of love is it?
I think there are at least three possibilities, and people mash them together constantly.
One: love without liking can be real care.
You genuinely want the person safe, unbroken, fed, protected, alive.
You may not enjoy them, but you are for them in some serious way.
Two: love without liking can also be identification.
This person is part of my story, my structure, my world. I do not need to enjoy them to feel that losing them would tear something out of me.
Three: what gets called love is sometimes just captive loyalty.
Not care.
Not free devotion.
Just conditioning so old it feels sacred.
That third one is why honesty matters.
Because not every grimly maintained bond is love.
Sometimes it is fear of being the bad child.
Sometimes it is guilt wearing holy clothes.
Sometimes it is inherited duty operating so automatically you mistake it for tenderness.
And sometimes, yes, it really is love, just minus the easy sweetness people like to associate with it.
The only way to tell is to ask what remains if obligation gets stripped down.
If nobody would judge you, would you still care what happened to them?
If there were no inheritance, no family script, no public morality attached, would their suffering still get under your skin?
If the answer is yes, there is probably love in the room even if everybody needs a nap after dinner.
I think this shows up brutally in caregiving. People taking care of elders, siblings, partners with chronic illness, addicted children, mentally ill parents. The culture loves the sweet version of care. Tender smiles. Gentle music. Brave loving sacrifice. But real care often contains annoyance, fatigue, disgust, resentment, boredom, repetition, and the deadening effect of being needed in the same way too many times in a row.
If you make affection the standard of real love there, you end up lying constantly.
The caregiver says, "Of course I'm glad to be here," while inside they are thinking, I would like one fucking week of silence and my own life back.
That does not necessarily mean the love is fake.
It may mean the labor is real.
Arlie Hochschild wrote about emotional labor, and the family version of that is brutal because it often demands not just service but the performance of proper feeling while serving. Care for them, yes. But also smile right. Mean it right. Do not let your exhaustion contaminate the sacred image of love.
That is too much.
Sometimes loving someone means continuing to act in their interest when liking has already left the building carrying its shoes.
But I do not want to romanticize this either.
Love without liking can rot.
It can become managerial.
Protective but contemptuous.
Faithful but dead eyed.
You keep showing up, but you stop seeing the person as vivid. They become task, burden, file, category, problem set. At that point, yes, something important is missing. Not because love must always be warm, but because real love, even when strained, still has some relation to the person as a person and not merely as a responsibility unit.
That is why the son's joke about the kidney and the lake house matters. The joke is funny because it carries both devotion and distance. He would save the man's life. He would not vacation with him. Fine. That can happen. But if the second half became, "And honestly, I don't much care whether he suffers, I just know I'm supposed to help," then we are sliding toward duty without love.
So maybe the cleaner distinction is this:
Liking has to do with ease.
Love has to do with stake.
I like a lot of people I would not reorganize my life for.
I have loved people whose company, in certain seasons, made me want to walk into the ocean holding a cinder block.
Not because they were evil.
Because intimacy and pleasure do not always travel together forever.
Especially in family.
Family can preserve stake long after ease has been blown to pieces.
And honestly, if you accept that, some things get less shameful.
You can stop pretending every family bond should feel cozy.
You can admit that some love is made mostly of responsibility, grief, memory, and occasional flashes of tenderness in the wreckage.
You can stop accusing yourself of emotional fraud just because you would rather get a root canal than spend a three day weekend with your uncle.
At the same time, you also have to stay alert to the danger of calling everything love because "family is complicated."
No.
Sometimes what survives is not love but unresolved dependence.
Sometimes it is only duty.
Sometimes it is fear of regret.
Sometimes it is the inability to imagine yourself outside the role.
Those things are not meaningless, but they are not all love.
Montaigne thought friendship could involve a kind of joy in the other's existence that feels very close to what a lot of people wish family guaranteed. Family often does not guarantee that. Which is why people feel so guilty when they discover they are more relaxed, more generous, more alive with friends than with kin. They assume the family bond is more legitimate because it is older and more sanctified. But sometimes friendship has more liking and less duty, while family has more love and less liking. Sometimes the categories cross. That is just human weather.
So where do I land?
Yes, you can absolutely love someone you do not like.
Love can survive where ease, delight, and compatibility fail.
It can survive as care, as stake, as unwillingness to let the person fall, as grief waiting in advance, as the strange hard fact that their existence still matters to your own even when their company wears you down to powder.
But that does not mean every joyless bond is love.
You still have to ask whether what remains is living care or just inherited obedience.
That is the difference.
If you can no longer enjoy them but you still honestly want their flourishing, still feel their suffering as morally weighty, still show up not only because the script says to but because something in you would not be at peace abandoning them, then I believe the love is real, even if the liking is dead as disco.
And maybe that is one of the less glamorous truths about being an adult.
Some love feels warm.
Some love feels heavy.
Some love feels like laughter at the table.
Some love feels like making the call anyway.
That's Philosophy Hour. No neat answer, no bow on it, just a question that hits different once you have to carry it back into your actual life.